World Cup Points

Scenarios for the US team’s success or failure aren’t hard to find, but mine are funny. The final matches in our group are England v Slovenia and the USA v Algeria.  The long and the short of it is: the US will advance if we do as well (or better) than England in the final games.

Edit: Thanks to Nevets in the comments for going through ALL the tie breaks and catching some math mistakes.

Points now:

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Scenarios:

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  • ruskerdu

    in #9 slovenia would have 4 points not 3

  • ruskerdu

    in #9 slovenia would have 4 points not 3

  • Nevets

    Mark,
    Some of your tables are a little off. Here is the tie breakers.
    Take a look & see if what I have noted is correct. It should be right.

    The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:

    a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
    b) goal difference in all group matches;
    c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

    If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
    d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
    e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
    f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
    g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

    In other words, if the points are the same, and both goal difference and scored goals are the same, they resort to how the two or more tied teams fared only in their games against each other.

    And if all else fails, the order will be drawn from a hat.

    So using the above tie breaker rules…

    — Scenario 1
    England could finish 1st if they have a better +/- than the USA. England would have to win by at least 4 goals if the States only win by 1. Would draw lots if tied on +/-

    — Scenario 2
    USA would be 1st due to a better +/- (USA would be at least +3 & Slovenia would be +1)

    — Scenario 5
    USA would be 2nd due to a better +/- than England (USA would be +2 & England would be 0)

  • Nevets

    Mark,
    Some of your tables are a little off. Here is the tie breakers.
    Take a look & see if what I have noted is correct. It should be right.

    The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:

    a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
    b) goal difference in all group matches;
    c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

    If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
    d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
    e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
    f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
    g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

    In other words, if the points are the same, and both goal difference and scored goals are the same, they resort to how the two or more tied teams fared only in their games against each other.

    And if all else fails, the order will be drawn from a hat.

    So using the above tie breaker rules…

    — Scenario 1
    England could finish 1st if they have a better +/- than the USA. England would have to win by at least 4 goals if the States only win by 1. Would draw lots if tied on +/-

    — Scenario 2
    USA would be 1st due to a better +/- (USA would be at least +3 & Slovenia would be +1)

    — Scenario 5
    USA would be 2nd due to a better +/- than England (USA would be +2 & England would be 0)